A simple explanation of family history work and everything you need to know to get started learning about your ancestors.
Duration : 0:2:19
A simple explanation of family history work and everything you need to know to get started learning about your ancestors.
Duration : 0:2:19
Hi, my name is Pat Shaw and I have been researching my family history since 1993 taking over from my mother who had started the ball rolling. She probably had been delving into her side of the family for 5 years prior and that was when there were alot fewer resources available. My aim is to provide a website here for the budding family historian who will have the ability to start tracing the lines and know where to go to find information. I will also be providing handy tips in different areas of research. Good luck with your research!
by missmajestypotter, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
I’m sorry I didn’t …
I’m sorry I didn’t specify. In faith, I’ve decided I’m an agnostic but in terms of my ancestor and parents faiths, they were a mixture of Protestants and Catholicd.
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
missmajesty,
So, …
missmajesty,
So, you’re not sure if there is a God? You’re not sure what religion is correct? What is holding you back from allowing Jesus to save you? just curious
I was agnostic for about 15 yrs after being raised in and leaving Mormonism. I’m now Christian.
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
That’s ok
You’re …
You’re so right…baptizing for dead people will do them no good.
That’s ok
Anyway, are you a Christian?
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Well, you said …
Well, you said you’re not interested in salvation, so it sounded like you don’t care about your eternal destiny.
Are you born again already? Is Jesus your Lord and Savior. Do you have assurance that if you died today, you’ll live with Jesus for eternity? If so, how did you come to know Jesus? just curious
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Why don’t you care …
Why don’t you care if you’re going to heaven or when you die? We all have an appointment with death. This life is so short. is not a good place to go. Wouldn’t you want to know where you’ll be before it’s too late? Eternity is forever.
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Well, if geneology …
Well, if geneology were just a hobby, I suppose it wouldn’t matter much, although still unprofitable, really, according to God’s word.
It’s the bigger picture (salvation and baptisms for dead people) that we’re really discussing here.
You know, you and your family need to make the decision to trust Jesus while you’re alive. There’s no second chances or gray areas.
Either you’re born again and have assurance of your eternal destiny or you don’t.
by jesusslave, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
austin worthington. …
austin worthington..
you say that Jesus Christ is your Lord…
do you contend for the faith in which you have been entrusted to???
do you seek to spend and be spent so that some may be saved??
this is not our home…..
this world is our mission field..
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Praise the Lord!
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Praise the Lord!
I was actually raised in the Mormon cult. I even went to the temple and did the baptisms for dead people.
I gave my life to Jesus last year. It took me while to trust His Word because I was taught growing up that the Bible was missing parts and that the LDS prophets were the authority instead of the Bible.
Thankfully, God had mercy on me and saved me.
You’re fortunate to have been taught the truth growing up.
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
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By …
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By the time Paul wrote to Timothy and Titus, the Old Law had been replaced by a new law (Hebrews 8:7-13). There was no need for Jews to use genealogies to dispute over their identity as a nation, tribe, or family. In Christ there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. For whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved (Romans 10:11-13; cf. Galatians 3:28; Colossians 3:11).
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
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For …
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For Christians to waste valuable time over foolish matters, such as ones ancestry, is unprofitable and useless (Tit 3:9). The only genealogy that ultimately matters to Christians is Christs. His genealogy serves as a proof of both the Bibles inspiration and the deity of Christ. The Messiah would come from the seed of Abraham (Gen 12:1-3), the tribe of Judah (Gen 49:10), the family of Jesse (Isa 11:1), and the house of David (Jer 23:5).
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Yes, maintaining of …
Yes, maintaining of genealogies was an important Jewish custom. Ancestry and bloodlines served several important functions among these people. Status within the larger community, inheritance rights, allotment of land, the stability of the throne in earlier times, the right to serve as a priest before God, various marriage laws, were all contingent upon an individual being able to prove his or her place in the proper lineage.
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by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Which are you, …
Which are you, Protestant or Catholic? You can’t be both. Either you’re born again or not. All roads don’t lead to heaven, you know.
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
What you’re being …
What you’re being taught in the LDS church is not biblical. God already told us when he would use prophets to give new revelation about Himself. He used them to set the foundation of his church (Eph 2:20) and until the end of the OT era (Luke 16:16, Matt 11:13). He clearly says these prophets spoke for God in TIME PAST (Heb 1:1). I’m sure you’re very excited about seminary. I studied it, too as a teenager, but it’s wrong doctrine. I’m former Mormon.
by missmajestypotter, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
I am not a Mormon …
I am not a Mormon myself, but of Catholic and Protestant origin, but my aunt is a converted Jehovah’s Witness. To me the religious debates don’t figure much and I’m just immensely grateful to LDS for their contributions to genealogy.
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
The scripture …
The scripture doesn’t say what you just wrote.
Read it for what it says…Titus 3:9 says avoid geneologies. They are unprofitable. 1 Tim 1:4 says neither give heed to fables and endless geneologies…
The real reason Mormons focus on geneologies is to baptize for dead relatives…a non-Christian, pagan ritual.
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
And another thing, …
And another thing, if Mormonism is a restoration of original Christianity they would need to demonstrate that LDS doctrines were originally in the Bible but later deleted. However, there is no manuscript evidence of revisions of the New Testament that eliminated cardinal doctrines. Also, the scripture quotes in the writings of the early church fathers show that there were no doctrinal changes.
You’re following another gospel. God sternly warns against this. Galatians 1:8
by cassiekarina, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
We believe in God, …
We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost. We do not worship his follower, Joseph smith. That would completely go against the lord’s teachings. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
by cassiekarina, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Also We believe in …
Also We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Obedience to the …
Obedience to the laws can’t save you from hell. In fact, Christ becomes of no effect to those who try to gain eternal life by keeping laws. See Romans 3:20, Galatians 2:21, 3:24, Ephesians 2:8-9.
The LDS bring ANOTHER GOSPEL than the one taught in the Bible, so Mormons are doomed if they follow it.
by cassiekarina, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
These are laws and …
These are laws and ordinances that we belief came through Christ himself; That we are obeying the true word of the master himself. These laws include things such as repentance, baptisms, so on and so forth. These require the lords hands and would otherwise be of no substantial value. Through these sacred things that the lord placed here for our benefits, only good blessings could possibly come forth, so long as we follow his good true words.
by cassiekarina, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Now, nevertheless, …
Now, nevertheless, on the other hand, the law oftentimes goes against the lords loving principles. What we follow isn’t necessarily the “law” but rather precepts, and we believe that we are subject to the law as long as the law doesn’t go against the good gospel teachings. The lord was crucified on the cross because what the law saw as just. Do you see us doing this? See here, I say never.
by cassiekarina, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
We believe all that …
We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God. I just finished off a seminary course this year about the old testament and i bear testimony that these things are in there, such search and pray with faith. There’s so much to be thankful for. “But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days.”
by PatG1944, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
I’m a Christian …
I’m a Christian first, Southern Baptist second. We believe salvation is through Christ only. He shed His blood that we may be saved, joseph smith did nothing to pay our sin debt. he can’t give us salvation & eternal life. It is a mockery of Jesus to say that joseph smith or anyone else can wash away our sins. How do you deal with the sin problem? The Bible also says it is appointed man once to die then the judgment. NO SECOND CHANCE. .
by johnyjamie, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Well, if the Book …
Well, if the Book of Mormon is supposed to “clear things up”, why are essential LDS doctrines entirely absent?
For example,
Pre-existence of man D&C 93:23,29
Multiple Kingdoms of Heaven D&C 76:81-98
Aaronic & Melchizedek Priesthoods D&C 107:1 ff
Baptism for Dead D&C 127:5-7
Plural marriage for exaltation D&C 132:1-4
Man becoming Gods D&C 132:20
Many Gods Abraham 4
Eternal progression AoF, p. 430-431
Celestial marriage D&C 132
Word of Wisdom D&C 89
Mother in heaven AoF, p. 443
by cassiekarina, on October 24 2009 @ 3:20 pm
I respect the fact …
I respect the fact that you ponder and search these things in your heart; that’s a good thing. The difference is we aren’t trying to bring anything new onto the table, all we want is to keep the original intent. We believe in the true god and also his son, the Savior. All spiritual principals are surrounded by love and therefore why would we throw the original doctrine away? We still implement the bible in our studies, there is just the book of Mormon to clear things up when there is confusion.